You think that's too much? Well it's 6 cycles/hour during heating demand, where with proportional control turned off it's one cycle until the demand is satisfied. It may well depend on the thermal inertia of the house and the efficiency of the heating system. The thermal inertia of this place is quite high and the heating not that good so on a still day we might manage 2C/hr rise but if it's a bit windy that drops to 1C/hr. I haven't seen lifecycle data for standard motorised valves, but I would be surprised if they are *that* bad......">
Cheap but effective central heating controller?

QUESTION:

Instructions for the CM6x and TP75 suggest setting the cycles/hour to 6 for use with motorised valves.
I'm going to have to dig out the installation instructions for my TP75, I'm sure they said words the effect of "it's not a good idea".
You think that's too much? Well it's 6 cycles/hour during heating demand, where with proportional control turned off it's one cycle until the demand is satisfied. It may well depend on the thermal inertia of the house and the efficiency of the heating system. The thermal inertia of this place is quite high and the heating not that good so on a still day we might manage 2C/hr rise but if it's a bit windy that drops to 1C/hr. I haven't seen lifecycle data for standard motorised valves, but I would be surprised if they are *that* bad...... But if you are operating them say twice as often the duration of service life is reduced by 50%, regardless of wether they are rated for 5,000 or 5,000,000 operations. The valve lasts 5 years instead of 10 etc Even if this were a problem, it would not be that hard to organise wiring such that heating motorised valves remained open during the heating time period A "heating time period" doesn't really exist with a programmable thermostat, you leave the heating "on" all the time and let the stat control the temp.

ANSWER:

I suppose this really takes us to the realisation that there's a limit to what the familiar S/Y/W plan components will let you do unless you're prepared to hack around with relays and other components.
I was doing a bit of research into controllers today and discovered that there is an internal proportional thermostat/programmer that will go with my boiler. Basically, it pulse-width modulates a signal to the boiler which winds up and down accordingly.
A bit more research revealed that it isn't made by the boiler manufacturer, Man Heiztechnik, but by Landis and Staefa (now part of Siemens). It turns out that this programmer, the QAW20, is part of a system normally used in apartment buildings with a central boiler and where the individual programmer controls a proportional water valve, regulating total heat supply to the apartment. There is then an optional central controller which can be used for logging and billing use.
OK, so the application is different to the single family dwelling typical in the UK, but I can't help thinking that we are stuck with 30 year old technology for the most part in controlling our heating systems.
We shouldn't be too dejected though. On a recent trip to the U.S. and the obligatory wander around Home Deeepo, I can report that heating equipment is very primitive. Water heaters especially look like something that Noah might have installed......


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