Furnace Repair Forum

QUESTION:

Jim did not hook up motor to direct voltage to see if the computor card was not turning on 2 speeds at one time and causing motor to over amp. Now he could put his amp meter on each 120 volt leg going to motor. You can tell this out in just a second to see problem. You got a new motor from Lennox for nothing and Jim got a extra hour or so labor out of you for nothing by changing a good motor. Now if you was having to pay for the motor he would have killed you. Jim broke it off in you a little and you was proud of him.

ANSWER:

OK, so the tech didn't know everything. I will tell you that there may have been some steps I left out of what he tested. I know that he did override the control board to test the motor directly; I'll see if I can get his email and let him post everything he did.
But now I want to ask you a question: If you can't diagnose a problem for someone via email, because you can't see the furnace in front of you, why do you think you can critique a techs' repair of the system remotely either? In order to do it, you have to assume that I have relayed every fact accurately. Which is an assumption you already know you can't make, because I'm not an HVAC repair person and as so many have pointed out, I'm just an idiot homeowner.
Once again, you seem to want to have it both ways, as long as there is angle that exists that lets you call me stupid. Go ahead, call me stupid. Call me whatever. But everytime someone responds to this post, you are defeating the purpose of your gang by giving me more information. I can, and will, go on playing the game for as long as you all wish me to. I enjoy it more than you all do, as I have the freedom of making mistakes in the area of repair discussion - you all don't. How many flamewar posts did I read amongst the "experts" themselves when some one called a gas a liquid, or couldn't figure out a formula for heat loss, etc, etc, etc.
If you want me to shutup, quit replying to my posts (Don't laugh at him billy, you are only encouraging him).
As far as the tech's labor charges, and your accusation that he "broke it off in me", you couldn't be further from the truth. I thought I detailed this before - because I was watching him, there was no way he could of charged me for parts I didn't need. He may have been able to do it to someone else. But I talked to him. He talked to me. That's why I called him a professional. I got to know him well enough during the 3.5 hours he was here that I came to believe in him, and his abilities. He explained what he was doing, and why he thought whatever the next step he was about to take was the right one. He wasn't looking for ways to sell me parts I didn't need..... he was trying to repair the problem.
So in hindsight, maybe there were things he could of done differently. I suppose in your 40 years you always made the right decisions? So many here have already told me of times when they don't get it right either. As we are all human (well OK, maybe not you, PJ or Bill) I expect mistakes to be made.
In the end, he was here for 3.5 to 4 hours, I got a new motor, cap and control board for $165. And $65 of that was the trip charge. He learned some things, I learned some things. $100 for all that I learned was more than reasonable, let alone walking out of the deal with, from an electrical/electronic perspective, a new furnace. I've shared as much detail as I have with all of you so that a new tech, or a homeowner could learn.
Turtle, it's obvious that yot have a bad case of PJItis and no longer need any more information from anyone either, because you are perfect and never make mistakes. But, there are others here who can use it. Maybe homeowners, maybe techs. I hope that one of you gets a service call for a newer lennox unit, remembers what I have posted, takes all the diagnostic steps he/she should, and maybe, just maybe, save themselves and the homeowner some time and money. If not, that's ok too. But as I've said so many times, I can't see how giving free information ever hurt anyone.
I did read a post from one of the regulars who gave info; because he knew that even with that the person would most likely screw the job up. More money for you guys. So what if they kill themselves or their family? If it wasn't the furnace, it would have been something else
... maybe the reroofing attempt .. maybe the new deck addition ... maybe being an asshole on the freeway. If they kill themselves, well, the gene pool just got a little stronger, didn't it? Go read the darwin award site. I'm sure there are many who died trying to fix their furnace or _whatever_.


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